That’s Inclusive! Podcast

The NHCDD would like to introduce their new podcast, That’s Inclusive!

We want to talk about disability and what it means to live a full life engaging in our communities. What does that look like? And how can we work together to make our world a more inclusive place?

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Trailer: Welcome!

Dec 21 • 00:58

An introduction to what you can expect from episodes of "That's Inclusive!" Conversations with the DD Council about what inclusive living really means for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities.

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Episode 13: Including Disability in DEI a man smiles at the camera, wearing a blue shirt and navy suit jacket

In this episode, Isadora talks with Ernesto Burden, publisher of 603 Diversity Magazine and advocate for inclusive community spaces.

Learn more: 

•    603 Diversity Magazine

•    Yankee Publishing

•    Uninclusive Inclusion: Intersectionality That Forgets People with Disability


Episode 13: Including Disability in DEI Transcript


Episode 12: Voter Access

In this episode, Vanessa and Chase talk with Disability Rights NH attorney James Ziegra about the good, the bad, and the ugly picture of voting access in NH.  a man with a button down shirt and bright yellow tie smiles at the viewer

Learn more: 

Episode 12: Voter Access transcript




Episode 11: Being a Family Caregiver

In this episode Pat interviews Sarah Sadowski, photo portrait of blonde woman smiling warmlyparent of a child with a disability and DD Council Member. Pat and Sarah discuss taking on the role of family caregiving and the effects of the paid caregiver crisis.  

Learn more: 

Caregiver’s Conference - Caregiver's Conference (
Family Caregiver Alliance - Caregiving 101: On Being a Caregiver - Family Caregiver Alliance

Episode 11 Being a Family Caregiver Transcript




Episode 10: Taking Part in Democracy

two women campaign for Olivia Zink with umbrellas and election signsIn this episode Pat interviews Olivia Zink. Olivia is the executive director for Open Democracy NH. Pat and Olivia discuss all things democracy in the Granite State. They cover:

  • Changes to absentee voting since the end of the pandemic
  • Efforts to strengthen the democratic process
  • The effect of money in politics
  • Accessible voting options
  • And at least one surprise!

Learn more:

Open Democracy NH - 
Open Democracy Action Scorecard- Voting scorecards - Open Democracy Action
One-4-All Accessible Voting System - Voting Accessibility in NH (

Episode 10: Taking Part in Democracy transcript


Episode 9: Bonus Episode Sheila Vargas, All Access Trails

Sheila Vargas outside portraitSheila Vargas, the Community Partnerships Manager at the Nature Conservancy, talks with Blake Tyler about involving the community in planning accessible outdoor recreation, how preset notions send a false message that nature is only for certain people, and how the work to make the outdoors more inclusive to everyone continues.

Learn more:
The Nature Conservancy in NH

The Cedar Swamp All Persons Trail

The All Persons Trail at Ossipee Pine Barrens


Bonus Episode Sheila Vargas, All Access Trails transcript


Episode 8: Ableism and Inspiration Porn

Learn more:
Stella Young: I am Not Your Inspiration, Thank You Very Much

Excerpt from: How to talk about disability sensitively and avoid ableist tropes by Shruti Rajkumar

Examples of Inspiration Porn

Episode 8 transcript


Episode 7: Interview with Parent AdvocateCarrie Duran

smiling person with long blond hairParent advocate, Carrie Duran and NHCDD Executive Director, Isadora Rodriguez-Legendre, talk about helping disabled young people navigate learning about sex and relationships..

Episode 7 transcript


Episode 6: Interview with Jean Crouch, Chair of the NHCDD representing the Department of Elderly and Adult Services. 

Jean Crouch talks with Patricia Vincent-Piet about becoming a council member and the importance of having healthy aging issues at the table. 
Episode 6 transcript


Episode 5: Interview with Arielle Van de Water on the Intersection of Developmental Disability and Mental Health

graphic with two hands holding a heart with a family inside Episode 5 transcript 

Arielle Van de Water and Isadora Rodriguez-Legendre discuss the intersection of autism and mental health and the value of having people "in your corner" while being your authentic self.


Episode 4: Parents with Disabilities

smiling person with long blonde hair and wearing a white sweater. The background has a blue sky and tree branches. Katelin Garland and Patricia Vincent-Piet, a mother-daughter team, discuss Katelin’s experience growing up with parents who have disabilities.

Parents with Disabilities Transcript

Disclaimer: some topics discussed in the episode may be upsetting to some listeners.


Episode 3: Interview with Nicole Sheaff

Nicole head shotIn this episode we hear from Nicole Sheaff, a parent advocate who had to learn to navigate the education and services systems to provide support for her 4 children, who have mental health and developmental disabilities. 

Learn more about:
Disability Rights Center NH:
Parent Information Center:

Interview with Nicole Sheaff - transcript


Episode 2: Disability Life in NH with Patricia Vincent-Piet

In this episode, New Hampshire Advocate, You Tuber and DD Council member, Patricia Vincent-Piet talks about the challenges of life in the Granite State for people with disabilities. She touches on housing, transportation, visit-ability, and ableism.

two people close together smiling. One has a brown ponytail and is wearing a white top. The other has short hair and is wearing glasses and a light shirt.Jim and Pat Piet You Tube Channel:

Pat’s contact information:

NHCDD website:

Disability Life in NH with Patricia Vincent-Piet - transcript


Episode 1: Interview with NHCDD Executive Director, Isadora Rodriguez-Legendre

In our first full-length episode, Vanessa Blais talks with the Executive Director of the NHCDD, Isadora Rodriguez-Legendre, about the work of the council and how to get involved in advocating for a more inclusive world.

NHCDD website:

NHCDD 5-year plan:

Isadora’s contact information:

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Executive Director of the NHCDD, Isadora Rodriguez-Legendre       Director of Policy and Planning, Vanessa Blais

With the Executive Director of the NHCDD, Isadora Rodriguez-Legendre and Director of Policy and Planning, Vanessa Blais


Concord t v channels 6, 17, qnd 22. Your community media centerThat’s Inclusive! is possible with the support of Josh Hardy and Concord TV. The views of our guests are personal and do not necessarily represent those of the DD Council.

If you have suggestions for topics or would like to join us, please contact Vanessa Blais at